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Mar 3, 2018 12:32:19 GMT
Post by maroon1 on Mar 3, 2018 12:32:19 GMT
I still think it's an awful idea. My only concession would be for balls over the line for a goal. Fouls and bookings are always matters of opinion and not fact. Handball in the box is the same, Kilmarnock's penalty last week a case in point. The thought of waiting 2-3 minutes to celebrate a goal leaves me cold. I don't think this makes me a dinosaur, I just think it undermines further the ref on the pitch and is open to abuse by managers coaches and players
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Post by meldrumjambo on Mar 3, 2018 13:20:33 GMT
Maroon. The system is devised to aid the referee, not to undermine him. He can't possibly see everything that goes on during the game, and is never guaranteed to see and judge every offside, bad challenge, ball over the line etc. given the speed of today's game, and at one instant viewing. The VAR at least gives him another pair of eyes, and a chance to replay the decisions in slow-mo and from different angles.
At the end of the day, all we want to see is a fair result with correct decisions as far as possible. If we score a goal, we should have it awarded. If it's offside, it shouldn't be. I
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Post by drj1956 on Mar 3, 2018 13:28:42 GMT
I suppose the good thing is that by the time we get it, it will have the kinks ironed out
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Post by maroon1 on Mar 3, 2018 14:00:03 GMT
Maroon. The system is devised to aid the referee, not to undermine him. He can't possibly see everything that goes on during the game, and is never guaranteed to see and judge every offside, bad challenge, ball over the line etc. given the speed of today's game, and at one instant viewing. The VAR at least gives him another pair of eyes, and a chance to replay the decisions in slow-mo and from different angles. At the end of the day, all we want to see is a fair result with correct decisions as far as possible. If we score a goal, we should have it awarded. If it's offside, it shouldn't be. I I don't need every decision to be correct Meldrum, sometimes the sense of injustice or smugness is the best part of a game and keeps us raging or amused for years afterwards. Totally get the ball over the line but after that I'm happy with a man trying his best to run a game surrounded by 22 cheating players and a couple of benches full of people with their own agendas. We've all seen loads of incidents that still can't be agreed on after loads of replays and the tin lid for me would be folk sitting at home would be better informed than the actual punters in the ground who wouldn't have access to any video evidence
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Mar 3, 2018 14:21:03 GMT
Post by drj1956 on Mar 3, 2018 14:21:03 GMT
Lol I agree with everyone on this subject. I change my mind so often. I used to be 100% against but the game has gotten so fast and as MAROON says you have 22 cheats on the park ( and we have cheek to call refs cheats). I think I am more in the VAR camp than out if it, maybe just the when to use it bit to be ironed out.
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Post by K19 on Mar 3, 2018 18:00:06 GMT
The thought of waiting 2-3 minutes to celebrate a goal leaves me cold. We normally have to wait 2-3 weeks to celebrate a goal, so what's a couple of minutes?
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Apr 17, 2018 15:28:55 GMT
Post by K19 on Apr 17, 2018 15:28:55 GMT
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Apr 17, 2018 17:51:49 GMT
Post by drj1956 on Apr 17, 2018 17:51:49 GMT
That is utterly bizarre. Imagine if it had been at the end of SECOND half
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Apr 17, 2018 19:24:37 GMT
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Post by dav 21/5/16 on Apr 17, 2018 19:24:37 GMT
Was for it at the start but having seen some of the decisions then Iām definitely in the against camp. Maybe it could be left to refs decision with 2 challenges per team but would lose challenge if lost like other sports and not at each stoppage?
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Post by dolflundgren on Apr 18, 2018 16:09:51 GMT
Agree giving players the chance to challenge is a good way to weed out the moaning. If you are sure you are right challenge, if not shut up and get on with the game. Could take a lot of dissent out of the game.
I dont think VAR is the problem, it is the way it is getting used. there needs to be a way of ensuring everyone knows what is going on. So big screens like in rugby or hearing the video ref over a tannoy as in hockey. At the moment it seems to be chaotic, and pulling players out of the tunnel again is just wrong. There needs to be a quicker way to look at it, or a way of telling the ref they are checking something to avoid that.
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May 3, 2018 9:22:48 GMT
Post by Dedrokstar on May 3, 2018 9:22:48 GMT
In Scotland we've refs whose decisions are slanted by which clubs are playing. I don't think there's any doubt about that and we aren't just talking about one or two or it being a passing phase. It would be similar people manning the VAR room so I don't believe it would make things any fairer. Can you ever envisage a dodgy goal for either of the Uglies being sent for review never mind being overturned?
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