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Post by K19 on Nov 2, 2018 16:05:32 GMT
Well I genuinely didn't know he had a medical diagnosis or of his involvement with mental health charities. I suppose it's not the sort of thing people talk about. I thought he was just a Ned, hence my complete intolerance of his behaviour. I'll cut him some slack going forwards and I hope other Hearts fans do too. As for drj's post about Fenlon, I too found his gesture at the Cup Final inoffensive and thought his punishment was both extreme and uncalled for. Mind you, it's easy to take it as banter when you are 5-1 up Ok, no more on Mr Lennon from me, I hope he's in good hands.
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Post by HerefordBull on Nov 2, 2018 16:57:41 GMT
Unfortunately, diagnosis or not he doesn't help himself at times.......hence his reputation Whats this 5 . 1 game you keep talking about?
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Post by drj1956 on Nov 2, 2018 17:36:49 GMT
My only reason to rejoice Newhaven is that you will be a worse team without him. He is a winner and instills that attitude in teams he manages.
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Post by heartofoak on Nov 2, 2018 17:55:27 GMT
When I first posted in the matchday thread I said it looked like the coin hit him in the chest. Glad that BBC video confirms that to be the case. For clarity. He was NOT hit on the face. He was NOT hit on the jaw. He was NOT knocked to the ground by either the force of the blow or by the shock. He saw or felt something hit his jacket, looked at it fall on the ground and realised it was a coin, then deliberately and carefully lay down on the ground holding his face. A conscious (and unconscionable) act of simulation. Add that to the fact he was winding the crowd up in the first place and that makes the whole episode doubly-concerning. As for Newhaven's post - I did not know Lennon had a past history of 'mental illness'. I knew he had a past history of acting like a fucking arsehole but I don;t believe I have ever seen anything saying he's suffering from mental illness. If that is genuinely the case then I (and I suspect others) would certainly have been more understanding and more tolerant of Lennon's behaviour; not just now, but in the past. I think it was thrown from a grassy knowl wasn't it? Or maybe the mafia involved? Either way it was not L.H.O.
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Post by HerefordBull on Nov 2, 2018 18:05:09 GMT
Just love a conspiracy theory. You'll be telling us next they didn't land on the moon
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Post by hfc on Nov 2, 2018 19:04:39 GMT
Looks to me like the coin bounced of his face and then down the way!
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Post by baldbobby on Nov 2, 2018 19:10:34 GMT
Looks to me like the coin bounced of his face and then down the way! Take another look at it after you remove the green tinted specs.😂😹👀
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Post by hfc on Nov 2, 2018 19:13:20 GMT
Ohhhhhhhh how very dare you!. . . I can see me "BLOCKING PEOPLE ON THIS SITE."
All 5 of you!
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Post by MTS on Nov 3, 2018 7:23:27 GMT
We now have his agent saying he’s targeted because he’s Irish Catholic and played for Celtic, naw he’s targeted because he’s a constant cock this side of the fence ,now over Govan way he may have a point. You couldn’t make it up Fred, Neil Lennon plays the “it’s because I’m an Irish Catholic” card whilst Irish Catholic Jimmy Dunne is a fans favourite at Tynecastle.
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Post by K19 on Nov 3, 2018 7:33:26 GMT
I've no doubt that historically, his problems in Glasgow are rooted in the fact he is an Irish Catholic. His problems in Edinburgh are rooted in the fact he's ginger.
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Post by dolflundgren on Nov 3, 2018 8:26:19 GMT
It is 100% rooted in the fact he is a dick. It's as simple as that. No other Hibs manager has had this abuse from us, but no other Hibs manager has gone out of their way to antagonise. I totally get that throwing coins and writing hanging him are completely out of order but he has to help himself and try not being a dick for a while, you never know he might even like it.
This moral high ground form the man who actively encouraged sectarianism and the "activities" of the green brigade at Celtic is just Hipocracy, but he knows that now he has made it sectarian and racist no one can call him out on it or they will be branded racist.
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Post by drj1956 on Nov 3, 2018 9:03:51 GMT
The best of it is, away from football he appears to be a decent guy. Quite engaging. I can't imagine he still needs to 'do football' financially so why put himself through it? It shouldn't be forgotten that most of us think CL is a bit of a dick. I rate him as a manager (as I do Lennon) but out with football he is apparently not very pleasant. It doesn't come off with CL in way it does with Lennon
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Post by sheldrake on Nov 3, 2018 10:27:59 GMT
Well Lennon has certainly diverted attention away from the coin throwing incident and his play acting and if he has had enough of the Racism as he calls it then perhaps he should leave Scotland he certainly has had a lot to put up with. As for the coin throwing incident itself Lennon made the most of that and the notion that the coin hit him on the face moved horizontally to come back and hit his jacket at the front as suggested on this forum would require Newton's Law of Motion to be rewritten!!
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Post by HerefordBull on Nov 3, 2018 11:12:08 GMT
I'm surprised he has stayed up here for so long. Of course he got his "out" when the Bolton job came up. Unfortunately for him it was at a time of great financial instability at the club and as we know it did not end well although the club just about survived. If a job comes up in England ( or elsewhere apart from Scotland) I think he will take it now and I would not blame him. Unfortunately for him he was never liked as a player amongst opposition, was outspoken,built up a reputation ( as was on the blog I posted earlier, many Hibs fans didn't like him when he was at Celtic) and then his antics as a manager have not endeared him any further. ( of course none of this helped by his mental illness diagnosis which as I said came as a Leicester City player) Of course this mainly escalated at Celtic and naturally the sectarinism came at him big time from sevco supporters. Since then all opposition fans tend to direct abuse at him via this direction whether they understand Irish politics and history or not. The other night on the radio commentary it was obvious the word "FENIAN" was being used many many times despite best efforts to cut the microphone sound down........ How many of these people understand what a fenian is / was? How many of these people know where and what the IRB was? ( not the IRA) How many of these people know who the "big fella" was? How many of these people know why the civil war came about in the 20's?........and who were the 2 sides? How many of these people know who signed the Treaty with the British?......and why did 6 counties remain as Northern Ireland? How many of these people know when the tricolour was introduced and what it represents? How many of these people know why Michael Collins was shot and who did it?.......... etc etc NOT MANY but because they have heard sevco fans direct it at him and other Catholic players they know it is "derogatory" and gets to people with that heritage so they feel it is OK to slate him and others with it. WOULD THESE SAME FANS USE THE"N" WORD TOWARDS A BLACK PLAYER OR MANAGER in the same circumstances? It is so ingrained with opposition supporters now that his best bet is to pack up and go down South. Up here he will never escape it. Dunne is a young player and it probably doesn't cross many Hearts fans minds he is a Southern Irish player. He has played his short career in England where he won't get any of this nonsense. He is too young to have got a reputation amongst opposition fans as a wee scrote which if this ever happened and then he went to Celtic he to would get subject to all the sectarian abuse. If he then moved on in Scotland and if he had shown it gets to him then you can bet opposition fans would again use the "f" word as to them it is an acceptable insult. If Dunne became a Hibs player and had a reputation like Stokes do you not think that Hearts fans would direct the "f" word towards him? It helps at present he is a good player, not outspoken and he wears the maroon. Of course, for your interest, it doesn't help that Lennon is a Catholic from NORTHERN Ireland which is a bigger no, no, amongst sevco support and protestants for historical reasons and nowadays the term "fenian" is mainly directed towards Northern Catholics.......by those that understand.....unfortunately most football fans don't and therefore show their ignorance One final question.......if you hold the Irish flag the other way round , whose countries flag do you have now? Oh, by the way I am not Catholic or Irish so have none of this heritage.......just an interest in Military history. .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 11:21:09 GMT
I've no doubt that historically, his problems in Glasgow are rooted in the fact he is an Irish Catholic. His problems in Edinburgh are rooted in the fact he's ginger. FFS...really?
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