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Post by K19 on Mar 3, 2015 16:22:45 GMT
Noticed in the papers that Dave MacKay earned a meager 22 caps for Scotland. Less than a third of the caps won by such luminaries as Darren Fletcher, Gary Caldwell and Christian Fecking Dailly amongst others who got lucky at the right time. Anyway, it got me looking at those who won 1-4 caps. Obviously the likes of JC and Gary Mackay jumped out at me (although I never rated GM that highly anyway), what about Jimmy Wardaugh, Alfie Conn (Snr and Jnr), Mike Galloway and, from other teams, the likes of Drew Jarvie in the 70's and members of Aberdeen or Dundee Utds great teams from the 80's? And you've got to feel for the guy from East Fife who scored a hat-trick in his one and only game and never got invited back. So have a look at this lot and let's have your comments. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scotland_international_footballers_(1%E2%80%934_caps)
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Post by dolflundgren on Mar 3, 2015 16:46:52 GMT
Looking at the list it strikes me more of the rank average players who got capped and should never have been. Gary Kenneth, Graeme Murty, even our own RN. Not anywhere near international class players. You will probably find there are guys who played in the 70s who would have had 100 caps now will have under 10 caps just given the relative strength of teams and also the number of games played (albeit they were possibly augmented by the home nations games.)
John Culquoon was one I thought might have had a few more, very consistent player, again if he played now he would be a fixture. Phil O'Donnell only has 1 I think, and he got that before he joined Celtic, how often do you get less caps at the uglies than you did with a "diddy" team?
Interesting, two guys I never thought did it for Scotland, Pat Nevin (28 caps) and Brian Mclair(30 caps), how many would anyone who was a regular for Man U and Chelski have now if they were playing?
Oh and Nicky Walker got 3 caps!!
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Post by K19 on Mar 3, 2015 17:11:08 GMT
Darren Fletcher has 67 caps or so, so that maybe answers your question!
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Post by maroon1 on Mar 3, 2015 17:46:48 GMT
Because of the proliferation of international football since the 50's 60's and 70's it's become too easy for players like Gary Caldwell, and Christian Dailly to amass a ridiculous amount of caps compared to real quality players from bygone era's. 22 caps for Dave MacKay are scant recognition for his ability and influence.
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Post by belgiantart on Mar 3, 2015 17:59:58 GMT
Because of the proliferation of international football since the 50's 60's and 70's it's become too easy for players like Gary Caldwell, and Christian Dailly to amass a ridiculous amount of caps compared to real quality players from bygone era's. 22 caps for Dave MacKay are scant recognition for his ability and influence. Another factor of course was the quality of their peer group. For example, mackay played at the same time as Baxter, Crerard, Jimmy Gabriel and more latterly Bremner perhaps others.
BT
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Post by maroon1 on Mar 3, 2015 18:03:44 GMT
Yeah that's a genuine factor to BT
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Post by belgiantart on Mar 3, 2015 18:09:05 GMT
Yeah that's a genuine factor to BT and I subsequently thought - when did Mackay twice break his leg? If that was in his prime, he would miss a season or two.
BT
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Post by drj1956 on Mar 3, 2015 18:32:47 GMT
Cruikie is the one I never understood. Bobby Clark and Ronie Simpson weren't in his league yet they got the caps
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Post by MTS on Mar 3, 2015 19:00:47 GMT
Willie Bauld - 3 caps ?
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