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Post by MTS on Jan 4, 2015 13:26:53 GMT
Simulation is a major part of modern football now and it frustrates the life out of me. Every single game you watch you'll see a player drop like a stone if he feels a fingertip on his back and 99.9% of the time gets a free kick. It's not just trying to dive for a penalty it's all over the park it happens. It would be great if something was done retrospectively to try and stamp it out.
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Post by K19 on Jan 4, 2015 14:12:05 GMT
Football is the only sport where you can get people fouling all day (Brown for example) and getting off with it, or one stupid incident gets a red card (insert any non-OF player). Rugby, for example is cleanly officiated, basketball has 5 fouls and out. Name another sport where punishment is left totally to the referee's discretion and is entirely in favour of the big teams? No wonder these cunts feel free to foul, cheat and dive all day long - because they KNOW they can get away with it. And if any referee dares to send off a Sevco or Celtic star, he'll either get his windows panned in or live in fear for the rest of his days. That's why Brown gets sent off in Europe for being a thug and gets off scot-free in Scotland for the same behavior. Needs sorting.
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Post by waynesbrain on Jan 4, 2015 14:50:19 GMT
Agree totally re Brown K19. I think we saw in our recent 2 games against either side of the erse cheeks how the game is referee'd almost totally in their favour.
Against Celtic Brown's continual fouling was highlighted and despite a clear "no more" indication from Collum, Brown subsequently went on to commit another 4 or 5 fouls with impunity, not another word spoken to him.
Against Sevco, the Boyd, Millar situations have already been picked over, so i won't bore you again.
I honestly believe that had players from other teams been involved in any of these incidents, they would have been off.
I know people believe that our refs are genuinely merely poor, and not biased towards the infirm. I disagree.
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Post by drj1956 on Jan 4, 2015 14:58:49 GMT
Nah, by and large they are just incompetents. Look at columns decisions in kill me v St midden. Shockingly bad but had one of those teams been scum OF we would be screaming bias. He is just useless. As for the ref in the Sevco game bring biased. If he was he wouldn't have sent Smith off.
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Post by maroon1 on Jan 4, 2015 15:23:38 GMT
I'm with DrJ....refs are human and therefore liable to mistakes and misjudgements...yeah I've had my p1sh boiled many a time by a ref, but I've also had to chuckle when they've made mistakes that have benefitted Hearts. We expect perfection from officials and that's just not possible in a sport like football. Interpretation is an important part of the job and for me that's what makes football the game it is. One mans idea of a foul is completely different to anothers on occasions and I'm comfortable with that
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Post by Flat Earth FC on Jan 4, 2015 16:02:15 GMT
I would raise the issue of game affecting decisions going more in favour of the old firm simply because of a potential backlash from the 'more effusive supporters of their club'. Let's face it, anything for an easy life?
And secondly, it's not as if the SFA would stand strong behind the referee if he had made a game changing call against either of the ugly sisters.
This isn't bias or a whole agenda. It's simply a result of the attitude allowed to develop in our game.
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Post by drj1956 on Jan 4, 2015 17:01:01 GMT
I was going to,post something similar Legend in fairness to Wayne. His point re Brown is valid. He wouldn't have been booked that day if he had committed murder. Is it bias, well I suppose it has an affect on the opposition but I don't believe it is malicious bias. One stat that astonished me and I cant remember the year ( around 07 08 09) but Barry Fergusson once went a whole SPL Season without a yellow card. For a central midfield player that is unbelievable.
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Post by K19 on Jan 5, 2015 7:10:20 GMT
Generally speaking, I don't think the refs are bent although I do think they gang up on clubs or players which have pissed them off e.g. 'Watch that Miko/Pawlett etc he's a cheating fecker', or, 'Vlad's been whining about bent refs so let's give those feckers nothing'. These, I think show temporary bias and there is no doubt whatsoever that a few years ago, Hearts were being victimized. Now, I think we have one player who will never get a fair deal from refs but otherwise we are treated as incompetently as all the others - except the Uglies of course who continue to get away with murder and found 'not proven' if anyone dares ask the compliance officer to get involved.
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Post by ritchiebaby on Jan 5, 2015 22:43:24 GMT
Getting back to the game, not only did we try to draw you out by attacking you, we succeeded. You didn't play football from the back, because we didn't let you. 46 goals in 18 games - HAH! That's proof that there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
The only thing that you did better than us on the day was that you were much happier with your point than we were with ours. Still keeping Sevco at bay a week on Friday will be enough to guarantee you the title. Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Post by drj1956 on Jan 5, 2015 22:52:14 GMT
Getting back to the game, not only did we try to draw you out by attacking you, we succeeded. You didn't play football from the back, because we didn't let you. 46 goals in 18 games - HAH! That's proof that there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
The only thing that you did better than us on the day was that you were much happier with your point than we were with ours. Still keeping Sevco at bay a week on Friday will be enough to guarantee you the title. Good luck for the rest of the season. I disagree Ritchie. We still played out from the back but your lot played the right way by pressing us high up the pitch. It is still 47 goals in 19 games. Also wedding play well and you still couldn't beat us. That says a lot about Hibs.
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Post by ritchiebaby on Jan 5, 2015 23:18:33 GMT
We'll disagree most of the time, DrJ, it's the most natural thing in the world. No matter, Hearts aren't the problem for Hibs, it's the like of QOS and Falkirk. I will agree with you about not being able to beat you - it's our Achilles heel, not scoring enough goals when we're on top.
But we've got a home game to come against you to even up the score.
PS - Is Ra...rs a dirty word on here? I never use the term S...o, so I'll just have to stop mentioning them.
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Post by baldbobby on Jan 5, 2015 23:29:49 GMT
Just spell it R angers Ritchie. The name R angers without the space is barred on here. It comes up as Sevco if you spell it without the space. Just get creative with how you spell it son.
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Post by drj1956 on Jan 6, 2015 0:36:14 GMT
Yip agree with you there Ritchie. We don't have to agree, it's just great that we can support our respective teams. Although I will have to say that it says more about your loyalty given your support for a wee team, when you could have opted to support the big team. Lol
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Post by ritchiebaby on Jan 6, 2015 21:54:13 GMT
Glad to see you know that I'm a much better person than you are.
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Post by K19 on Jan 7, 2015 10:47:40 GMT
Just to clarify a few points R angers without the space is changed to Sevco. It is the only banned word apart from cunt. I prefer Sevco as everyone knows we are talking about R angers new team as opposed to R angers old team (which is in the process of liquidation) but I can review this. At the moment, if everyone apart from Ritchie is happy with Sevco then it stays at Sevco.
To clarify other matters. Hibs are not better than Hearts - not by a long fucking way but, even tho I disagree to the point of almost asking for him to be Sectioned under the Mental Health Act, I respect and will protect Ritchie's right to say and believe such nonsense.
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