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Post by juniorjambo93 on May 12, 2020 17:08:11 GMT
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rudix3
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Post by rudix3 on May 12, 2020 17:24:45 GMT
It's a joke, it's like asking drug dealers to vote if they want their homes raided. Now they will try take the moral high ground.
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Post by MTS on May 13, 2020 11:44:37 GMT
Iām sure Budge will have one eye on this from the French Ligue 1
Amiens have started legal proceedings for their "unjust" relegation after France's Ligue 1 season was ended early because of the coronavirus crisis.
Paris St-Germain were awarded the title last month, with Amiens and Toulouse relegated, after the French government cancelled the 2019-20 sporting season.
Amiens were 19th in the table, four points behind Nimes and 10 points ahead of Toulouse, with 10 games to play.
Club president Bernard Joannin said they would fight the "unfair decision".
He said in a news conference: "We find that this decision goes against sporting fairness. The decision is a punishment from the league. It is unjust.
"We have been forced into fighting, into going to court to try to overturn this unfair decision."
Earlier this month, Amiens launched a petition asking that the league's governing body, Ligue de Football Professionnel, reconsider its decision to relegate the two sides and instead have 22 teams instead of 20 in the top division in 2020-21.
This would include Lorient and Lens, who have been promoted from Ligue 2.
Club lawyer Christophe Bertrand said: "We are not contesting the decision to stop the season. That is not really the object of these proceedings. It would be a bit inappropriate.
"However, what we are contesting are the consequences of the decisions that were taken."
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Post by drj1956 on May 13, 2020 12:02:34 GMT
That was my point yesterday with the possibility of joining with clubs in similar situations in different countries to take this to sport arbitration committee in Luasarne
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Post by HerefordBull on May 13, 2020 12:10:44 GMT
A number of leagues are looking at the legal road. ( including the lower English leagues if they are called as expected)
Sensible approach would have been to null and void the leagues as the dutch have done, which I have mentioned before . Most of this cr*p with the SPFL would not have happened . The only discussions would have been the arguments with Celtic, Dundee United et al but that would have been a lot less grief than has and is going to happen.
This is not the end .....but the beginning
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Post by drj1956 on May 13, 2020 12:37:19 GMT
I'm coming round to that NH. I was trying to be reasonable in that the likes of celtic liverpool and dundee united being so far ahead in their leagues deserved titles. However the relegation arguement is bigger and more damaging therefore perhaps null and voiding would have been the better choice. Or perhaps call the leagues award the trophies but have no promotion or relegation. Nothing is fair for all.
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Post by drj1956 on May 13, 2020 12:42:22 GMT
Another point is that I fully accept the results of yesterday's vote ( doesn't mean I agree with it) but to get all celebratory about a vote that says a third of membership is unhappy with the way things have been done is foolish.
The SPFL should have commented that while they were happy to win the vote it was a concern that a third of members were not happy and that steps need to be taken to address that situation
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Post by drj1956 on May 13, 2020 12:55:20 GMT
I just wonder that if enough nations clubs start looking at legal action, UEFA may advise member associations to drop relegation for this year or risk involvement in uefa competitions.
Possibly wishful thinking on my part.
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Post by dav 21/5/16 on May 13, 2020 14:03:18 GMT
Not promoting teams is equally unfair as relegating teams. Lower leagues that want paid out and stopped fine, leagues that can play to a finish should be allowed to naturally with or without supporters in stadiums. Those that think we will see a full 2020/21 season be completed are foolish as this stand worldwide, as all it needs is a short spike to shut the ones restarting down for another 2/3 months.
For the sake of travel and fixture congestion Iād cancel UEFA CL and Europa cup games 20/21 and if possible complete this years outstanding fixtures and those that qualify will be ready to start season 21/22. It would give massive amount of time to play outstanding games league, domestic and euro cups, qualifiers for euros etc and if need be allow potential 2nd / 3rd spikes of the virus etc, time to disperse.
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Post by drj1956 on May 13, 2020 14:44:54 GMT
While your proposal does have merits dav there isnt a snowballs chance in hell that clubs would opt for it. Its actually not beyond the realms of possibility that no games will be played before March next year all we would need to do there, would be just continue where we left off as if the preceding year hadn't happened.
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Post by juniorjambo93 on May 13, 2020 15:28:15 GMT
I'm past the point of thinking creatively about how to deal with this because it doesn't matter how rational a suggestion might be, it will not be followed because rationality is not the supreme concern of the SPFL.
The only way justice will prevail is if it is imposed upon the SPFL either by a court of law or a supervising body (presumably UEFA).
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Post by countyjambo on May 14, 2020 7:57:00 GMT
My take on the whole thing, similar to others but slight difference. Why if we ever get started again don't we just continue the current season and fixtures to the end, cup included then have a shorter "summer" break and start next season with no winter break. Sounds simple but unsure how international tournies would b affected but I believe those have already been moved to next summer.
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Post by juniorjambo93 on May 14, 2020 8:23:52 GMT
My take on the whole thing, similar to others but slight difference. Why if we ever get started again don't we just continue the current season and fixtures to the end, cup included then have a shorter "summer" break and start next season with no winter break. Sounds simple but unsure how international tournies would b affected but I believe those have already been moved to next summer. Very good shout!
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Post by sheldrake on May 14, 2020 9:19:30 GMT
My take on the whole thing, similar to others but slight difference. Why if we ever get started again don't we just continue the current season and fixtures to the end, cup included then have a shorter "summer" break and start next season with no winter break. Sounds simple but unsure how international tournies would b affected but I believe those have already been moved to next summer. I could live with that.
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Post by drj1956 on May 14, 2020 9:41:39 GMT
My take on the whole thing, similar to others but slight difference. Why if we ever get started again don't we just continue the current season and fixtures to the end, cup included then have a shorter "summer" break and start next season with no winter break. Sounds simple but unsure how international tournies would b affected but I believe those have already been moved to next summer. If the SPFL are to be believed ( aye I know unlikely) and we can get playing in July (aye I know, unlikely) then why cant we complete season? I'd love to hear their logic for what makes them think July is feasible How much they think it will cost to play each game. How they will do testing Who will pay for it How they intend to deal with players out of contract Has there been any consultation whatsoever with players union over how the players feel about it As EK said, it seems to me they have just done their usual open their mouth and let nonsense come out of it. Lending even more incredulity to the alleged vote of confidence they got the day before I'm beyond caring what league we eventually play in but the SPFL incompetence and their ability to get away with it will never cease to amaze me.
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