rudix3
First Team Player
Posts: 658
|
Post by rudix3 on May 10, 2020 18:28:34 GMT
I dont agree with you at all, nobody deserves anything! Pure and simple. League is not complete. In what world does partick deserve to go down. No one should profit while others suffer.
On the spfl own logic hearts should be awarded the cup. But that's farcical.. right? This shit show is nothing more than to massage celtics ego and award them the league while their budies get the crums. It's a disgrace.
As for new and unknown, if it was never explored you would still be living in a cave, no medicine or technology. I've far more to say on the business model subject but it's the wrong form. Still trading and going strong through convid19 so I'll be happy at that and leave it their.
It's a football forum county jambo... feel for anyone with health issue, not just convid19. The show must go on and I mean that in the most respectful way.
|
|
|
Post by countyjambo on May 10, 2020 20:26:24 GMT
A football forum indeed Rudi and my comments with regarding the GFA make issue to the that , if they were not so blinded by the the old scum and their ridiculous voting methods none of this would be contentious. But it will be down to lawyers and the concern for public health will be the deciding issues. I feel sorry for anyone with health issues not just Covid, my sister and daughter in law are both working in Covid wards for the NHS so it is obviously important to me. But respect your point of view but don't think we are respected when it comes to our views on football bythe governing body and we will be punted to the championship by them
|
|
|
Post by dolflundgren on May 11, 2020 9:53:30 GMT
Every time Doncaster talks I just want to punch him. It is the way he twists and turns to avoid answering questions and always takes it off on a tangent which suits him which bugs me. He talks about what is happening in France and Germany as it suits his agenda, but no mention of Holland because it doesn't, arguably Holland are closer to our model of smaller tv money to gate receipts ratio.
I totally understand self interest in this, and in an ideal world it woudlnt happen, but it was always going to be the case. What it needs though is a style of leadership which allows a degree of that but gives guidance to help the decision making process. What we are seeing is management taking a hard line and anyone who disagrees is branded pretty much as a traitor and publically criticised. The language used has been appalling. Sevco have been just as guilty but to be honest I would expect nothing better from them, the SPFL have to be better than that and not get involved in the name calling.
One point he made on solidarity payments was that it wasn't in the rules, but if that is what the members want then that's what they will do. How is that different from the loans etc that were talked about and thrown out as not in the rules? He probably knows they will never vote for it willingly.
I think we will go down a legal route or at least threaten to, then they will shit themselves and a solidarity payment will be offered. Where AB has an issue is that it wont be enough for some sections of support, no matter how much it is. I am resigned to being demoted now, the important thing is how bad it will be financially and whether we still have a club at the end, having no bank debt will help us a lot, but I don't see many of the current squad staying.
Now that Sevco have offered to pay for the inquiry (god knows how and why) then there is no reason not to do it, in fact if Celtic etc are sure there is no issue then they might as well use it to cost them money. Similar if there is a legal case, what have the SPFL got to worry about? THey are 100% sure they did nothing wrong, so what have they got to lose? When they win they will have their expenses covered. The only way this is going to move on is some sort of investigation or legal ruling, until then we will go round in circles. In the investigation however, it will require people to speak truthfully and I have no faith that will happen. Doncaster was again adding a bit of pressure, basically saying if anyone felt bullied then they are just a bit soft as they are supposed to be rough tough business people, similarly if they feel bullied they should stand in front of the class and point out the bully, which in itself is classic bully behaviour, single out and humiliate the weaker parties, use any power you have to belittle them and make them feel small.
The whole thing ius a clusterfuck from start to finish, the Dundee scenario is just rank amateur. Doncaster is saying they have some great business acumen and skills on the board, well they aint that great when they oversaw all of this. Ann herself is touted as a great business person, yet forgot to order seats for a stand, people make mistakes. If the SPFL had come out and said they made a mess of it and they were sorry, lets rerun the vote, then this could all have been avoided, they are too arrogant or stupid to do so, so we will end up in court one way or another.
|
|
|
Post by parkhead98 on May 11, 2020 10:35:18 GMT
Leave the guy alone, Dolf. All this palaver is just a distraction for him. Don't you know that he's busy planning how to get everything up and running again.
Well thank fuck for that, I was beginning to think that nobody in Scotlands footballing halls of power were concerned that our game might be facing a crisis just now. Yet all the time Unky Donc and his minions were on the case.
Phew! For a while there I thought we were in trouble.
Seriously, the guy is a fucking dick!!!
|
|
|
Post by dolflundgren on May 11, 2020 11:47:26 GMT
I think your last sentence sums up what I was trying to say nicely!
|
|
|
Post by drj1956 on May 11, 2020 20:14:41 GMT
I have to laugh at those people who are pissed off that reconstructure is off the table. I mean, honestly,there are only two groups who have any interest in reconstructure
1. The vast majority of fans 2. The vast majority of football players.
Why would the SPFL pay any attention to those 2 insignificant groups.
|
|
rudix3
First Team Player
Posts: 658
|
Post by rudix3 on May 11, 2020 20:49:34 GMT
Every time Doncaster talks I just want to punch him. It is the way he twists and turns to avoid answering questions and always takes it off on a tangent which suits him which bugs me. He talks about what is happening in France and Germany as it suits his agenda, but no mention of Holland because it doesn't, arguably Holland are closer to our model of smaller tv money to gate receipts ratio. I totally understand self interest in this, and in an ideal world it woudlnt happen, but it was always going to be the case. What it needs though is a style of leadership which allows a degree of that but gives guidance to help the decision making process. What we are seeing is management taking a hard line and anyone who disagrees is branded pretty much as a traitor and publically criticised. The language used has been appalling. Sevco have been just as guilty but to be honest I would expect nothing better from them, the SPFL have to be better than that and not get involved in the name calling. One point he made on solidarity payments was that it wasn't in the rules, but if that is what the members want then that's what they will do. How is that different from the loans etc that were talked about and thrown out as not in the rules? He probably knows they will never vote for it willingly. I think we will go down a legal route or at least threaten to, then they will shit themselves and a solidarity payment will be offered. Where AB has an issue is that it wont be enough for some sections of support, no matter how much it is. I am resigned to being demoted now, the important thing is how bad it will be financially and whether we still have a club at the end, having no bank debt will help us a lot, but I don't see many of the current squad staying. Now that Sevco have offered to pay for the inquiry (god knows how and why) then there is no reason not to do it, in fact if Celtic etc are sure there is no issue then they might as well use it to cost them money. Similar if there is a legal case, what have the SPFL got to worry about? THey are 100% sure they did nothing wrong, so what have they got to lose? When they win they will have their expenses covered. The only way this is going to move on is some sort of investigation or legal ruling, until then we will go round in circles. In the investigation however, it will require people to speak truthfully and I have no faith that will happen. Doncaster was again adding a bit of pressure, basically saying if anyone felt bullied then they are just a bit soft as they are supposed to be rough tough business people, similarly if they feel bullied they should stand in front of the class and point out the bully, which in itself is classic bully behaviour, single out and humiliate the weaker parties, use any power you have to belittle them and make them feel small. The whole thing ius a clusterfuck from start to finish, the Dundee scenario is just rank amateur. Doncaster is saying they have some great business acumen and skills on the board, well they aint that great when they oversaw all of this. Ann herself is touted as a great business person, yet forgot to order seats for a stand, people make mistakes. If the SPFL had come out and said they made a mess of it and they were sorry, lets rerun the vote, then this could all have been avoided, they are too arrogant or stupid to do so, so we will end up in court one way or another. What got me was Doncaster saying we couldn't trust an independent investigation funded by Sevco. But we were to trust his shit show of an SPFL funded independent investigation, that we have no answer on how it was funded and how much! I mean really.. he's basically just admitted he paid for the answers that suited him best in their investigation. Why is no papers calling him on this???
|
|
|
Post by Dedrokstar on May 12, 2020 10:07:42 GMT
Bandersons tweet today about Boris' new lockdown rules made me chuckle.
"You can play sports but only with members of your own household. Don't play in a league format because the competition might need to be ended early by a vote, and the results might be published before all the votes are in. It would be utter carnage."
|
|
|
Post by drj1956 on May 12, 2020 11:05:02 GMT
No news yet on vote outcome?
|
|
|
Post by MTS on May 12, 2020 11:14:29 GMT
No news yet on vote outcome? Not heard a peep yet
|
|
|
Post by MTS on May 12, 2020 11:16:48 GMT
Hearts Tweeted this picture this morning, must admit I’m missing this place.
|
|
|
Post by drj1956 on May 12, 2020 11:28:29 GMT
Pitch looking good. Missing out so much.
|
|
|
Post by juniorjambo93 on May 12, 2020 11:31:46 GMT
That pitch is the nicest I have ever seen it!
|
|
|
Post by dolflundgren on May 12, 2020 12:06:52 GMT
Probably doing the pitch the world of good.
The press release for the vote with who the "traitors" are will have been written last night. No need to actually speak to the clubs, just tell them.
|
|
|
Post by fredstersafool on May 12, 2020 14:41:33 GMT
Pity there’s no a decent player to grace it
|
|