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Post by dav 21/5/16 on Apr 16, 2020 11:45:05 GMT
Fair play JJ that makes a bit of sense.
However for me if reconstruction is the answer then the whole set up needs looked at.
For me fuck this stupid 14 team / split set up, which will be the only option those running our game and tv want to protect 3 or 4 games against each of the OF, the only way I’d like to see us reconstruct would be a top division of 18 team playing 34 games (17 home 17 away). 2 automatic relegation spots and 3rd bottom play off. The other 24 teams (plus 2 junior teams) can then be split into 2 leagues Div 1 with 18 teams same format and Div 2 with final 8 teams plus 2 junior teams playing 4 times against each (36 total) with only bottom team being relegated and top junior team being promoted as we have at moment.
The reason for me would allow more Scottish or young talent to flourish in games towards end of the season in turn helping the national teams progress, plus someone out with the OF or more realistically Celtic to dominate the league title. However can the clubs be trusted not to self interest on this outcome either?
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Post by MTS on Apr 16, 2020 11:47:56 GMT
If our players hadn’t bottled it in Paisley we would have been in the Premier League. Probably the worst performance I’ve seen this season and again beaten with a ball over the top.
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Post by jambo18 on Apr 16, 2020 11:49:32 GMT
Fair play JJ that makes a bit of sense. However for me if reconstruction is the answer then the whole set up needs looked at. For me fuck this stupid 14 team / split set up, which will be the only option those running our game and tv want to protect 3 or 4 games against each of the OF, the only way I’d like to see us reconstruct would be a top division of 18 team playing 34 games (17 home 17 away). 2 automatic relegation spots and 3rd bottom play off. The other 24 teams (plus 2 junior teams) can then be split into 2 leagues Div 1 with 18 teams same format and Div 2 with final 8 teams plus 2 junior teams playing 4 times against each (36 total) with only bottom team being relegated and top junior team being promoted as we have at moment. The reason for me would allow more Scottish or young talent to flourish in games towards end of the season in turn helping the national teams progress, plus someone out with the OF or more realistically Celtic to dominate the league title. However can the clubs be trusted not to self interest on this outcome either? Ps Dave The teams ain’t junior any longer all are senior clubs now but I get the point made just can’t see the premiership having 18 teams with the old firm only meeting twice being seen as enough
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Post by rudix3 on Apr 16, 2020 11:51:33 GMT
If our players hadn’t bottled it in Paisley we would have been in the Premier League. Probably the worst performance I’ve seen this season and again beaten with a ball over the top. If the league had been called 8 days earlier we would not have been bottom. That's the margins we are dealing with. Game in paisley should never of been play either! Another poor decisions by the spfl in a time of crisis.
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Post by rudix3 on Apr 16, 2020 12:06:07 GMT
Fair play JJ that makes a bit of sense. However for me if reconstruction is the answer then the whole set up needs looked at. For me fuck this stupid 14 team / split set up, which will be the only option those running our game and tv want to protect 3 or 4 games against each of the OF, the only way I’d like to see us reconstruct would be a top division of 18 team playing 34 games (17 home 17 away). 2 automatic relegation spots and 3rd bottom play off. The other 24 teams (plus 2 junior teams) can then be split into 2 leagues Div 1 with 18 teams same format and Div 2 with final 8 teams plus 2 junior teams playing 4 times against each (36 total) with only bottom team being relegated and top junior team being promoted as we have at moment. The reason for me would allow more Scottish or young talent to flourish in games towards end of the season in turn helping the national teams progress, plus someone out with the OF or more realistically Celtic to dominate the league title. However can the clubs be trusted not to self interest on this outcome either? Ps Dave The teams ain’t junior any longer all are senior clubs now but I get the point made just can’t see the premiership having 18 teams with the old firm only meeting twice being seen as enough The old firm point really gets my goat. WHY WHY WHY. st mirren Livingston or st Johnstone even dundee United and Hamilton all teams who have disappeared from the prem for large periods of time had to do with out this cash and any one of these teams could easily make a return to the championship. A bigger league and I'd genuinely be shocked if any these teams go down. Bigger league offers more financially security surely for a far longer period of time. Hearts will be back and will take their turn in being 3rd best in the country as the cycle begins again. Everyone has good great bad desatoris seasons. What has Dundee or any these smaller teams got to gain saving them self's for 1 season, every years a dog fight. Dundee chances of promotion are back two steps now. Thinking bigger ffs.
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Post by juniorjambo93 on Apr 16, 2020 14:17:02 GMT
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Post by MTS on Apr 16, 2020 15:06:25 GMT
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Post by juniorjambo93 on Apr 16, 2020 15:12:12 GMT
The epitome of impotence.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 16, 2020 15:45:01 GMT
Fair play JJ that makes a bit of sense. However for me if reconstruction is the answer then the whole set up needs looked at. For me fuck this stupid 14 team / split set up, which will be the only option those running our game and tv want to protect 3 or 4 games against each of the OF, the only way I’d like to see us reconstruct would be a top division of 18 team playing 34 games (17 home 17 away). 2 automatic relegation spots and 3rd bottom play off. The other 24 teams (plus 2 junior teams) can then be split into 2 leagues Div 1 with 18 teams same format and Div 2 with final 8 teams plus 2 junior teams playing 4 times against each (36 total) with only bottom team being relegated and top junior team being promoted as we have at moment. The reason for me would allow more Scottish or young talent to flourish in games towards end of the season in turn helping the national teams progress, plus someone out with the OF or more realistically Celtic to dominate the league title. However can the clubs be trusted not to self interest on this outcome either? AS has been said earlier I dont think this will happen, but I totally agree with you. 18 team league us the way to go playing each other twice. Wont happen though.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 16, 2020 15:53:00 GMT
Total rebuild required for next season regardless of what division we’re in. All the serial losers can GTF and that includes Stendel. A new CEO urgently required that has a vast experience running a football club. We’ve got to be rebuilt and ready for the start of the season. Be careful what you wish for MTS. Just finished reading Ian Murrays book and was quite dismayed at the acrimony within FoH. Sure Budge has made some mistakes but I am genuinely concerned at what might happen if she decides she has had enough or the fans kick her out.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 16, 2020 16:08:38 GMT
The epitome of impotence. I suspect Partick have been told reconstruction WILL happen. If it doesn't they may very well be one of those going bust. Can they survive 1st division with their full time set up? I doubt it.
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Post by baldbobby on Apr 16, 2020 16:17:13 GMT
Just read the Partick statement and to me reading between the lines they do not want to waste money fighting a fight they may or may not win. Even if they win it still costs money that they cannot afford. Could be financial suicide. Now if they , us and some others were to get together and bring a class action suit against the SPFL and share costs, maybe that is an option.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 16, 2020 16:22:31 GMT
Just read the Partick statement and to me reading between the lines they do not want to waste money fighting a fight they may or may not win. Even if they win it still costs money that they cannot afford. Could be financial suicide. Now if they , us and some others were to get together and bring a class action suit against the SPFL and share costs, maybe that is an option. I wish we could BB, But time would be against it and it would be costly. As usual the incomoetents at the SPFL will once again get to do whatever they wish. It's a totally inept organisation. .
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 16, 2020 16:27:16 GMT
I've just finished reading Ian Murrays book and I would recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it. Some stark stuff in there. Having read it, I'm not as confident in FoH as I was pre read. Lots and lots of in fighting and disharmony between them and the supporters organisations. Seems to me that Anne Budge is the glue holding it all together.
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Post by fredstersafool on Apr 16, 2020 16:30:29 GMT
Sorry but this has fuck all to do with losing in Paisley it goes way back to October 2018 and the lack of action from Anne Budge,we’ve been in free fall from then til now.
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