rudix3
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Post by rudix3 on Apr 11, 2020 0:20:16 GMT
Can we table a vote of no-confidence for the spfl and introduce reconstruction from top to bottom.
Most corrupt league in the world! Chairmen on the governing board from clubs who's club benefit from their proposals. Unbelievable!🙄 The fact the press aren't jumping all over this and high lighting how bias and underhand the whole thing is just shows you how deep the corruption is ingrained into Scottish football. I know football rivalry runs deep and seeing your mortal enemy suffer is great banter, but when are we going to get a better chance to change things again. If Hibs and Aberdeen are serious about being a force in Scotland and aren't here just to make the numbers and get a cameo in Europe then they should join Hearts and Sevco and push for change. Sevco will do anything to stop Celtic getting the title and we need a vote from one of the Ugles to push through any motion! If four of Scotlands top 5 teams throw some weight behind this we will get league reconstruction on fairer terms for everyone. Or is seeing Hearts in the devison below for 1 season worth more than winning the league?? Time to think bigger hobs! Engage brains and get past the years of pumping you've had, either way theirs more coming your way, may as well take two a year instead of 4! How much points a year do hibs lose to Sevco Celtic and Hearts playing 3 or 4 times a year? What's the closes points tally hibs have ever been to winning the league off the big two? You're backing the wrong horse and cutting off your own nose to spit your face!
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Post by fredstersafool on Apr 11, 2020 5:08:00 GMT
If it was hearts sitting second bottom only four points clear what way do you think the club would have voted? Yes of course is the answer it’s about self preservation this vote nothing else, two people are two blame for the situation we find ourselves in one in particular and its no the tit who runs the SPFL
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Post by parkhead98 on Apr 11, 2020 8:36:21 GMT
Don't know what it means in financial terms, but have the Hobbits really voted for a proposal which would see them fall out of the top six?
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Post by HerefordBull on Apr 11, 2020 8:37:44 GMT
I still think it should come down to a League re structure......its the ideal time to do it........unfortunately its down to those clowns who run the game in Scotland, so not holding my breath fot it to be done or done sensibly . Afterall they have to what is best for Scot...., whoops, Celtic and sevco. Hibs did vote yes which meant they would fall to 7th below St J........would cost them I think, ÂŁ125 K in prize money
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Post by MTS on Apr 11, 2020 8:57:00 GMT
Premier League restructure requires 11 teams to vote for it. I really can’t see it happening unless it’s already been agreed by the clubs and maybe why Budge abstained in yesterday’s vote.
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Post by parkhead98 on Apr 11, 2020 8:57:34 GMT
I can't for the life of me see how ending the league campaign now will help struggling clubs long term.
League restructuring is the obvious and logical solution. It can be implemented in a way that can accommodate the conclusion of this seasons fixtures if and when it becomes safe to do so. The only problem with that scenario is too many self interested parties.
If the relevant governing bodies were doing their jobs properly, they'd be making decisions to secure the future of the game, not meandering to the whims of certain clubs.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 11, 2020 10:22:44 GMT
I'm quite astonished that clubs in the play off positions in the championship voted for this unless as MTS said they have already been promised reconstruction. The play off games alone relatively big earners
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Post by MTS on Apr 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT
Stranraer’s chairman just said on off the ball that Partick still have a game in hand and if they won it they would be off the bottom. Unbelievable that the SPFL would even consider a plan to relegate a club in that situation.
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Post by K19 on Apr 11, 2020 12:13:22 GMT
Stranraer’s chairman just said on off the ball that Partick still have a game in hand and if they won it they would be off the bottom. Unbelievable that the SPFL would even consider a plan to relegate a club in that situation. ... Unless they were guaranteeing reconstruction.
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Post by countyjambo on Apr 11, 2020 13:26:52 GMT
maybe someone could tell us K19 ?
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Post by hfc on Apr 11, 2020 14:04:11 GMT
Can we table a vote of no-confidence for the spfl and introduce reconstruction from top to bottom. Most corrupt league in the world! Chairmen on the governing board from clubs who's club benefit from their proposals. Unbelievable!🙄 The fact the press aren't jumping all over this and high lighting how bias and underhand the whole thing is just shows you how deep the corruption is ingrained into Scottish football. I know football rivalry runs deep and seeing your mortal enemy suffer is great banter, but when are we going to get a better chance to change things again. If Hibs and Aberdeen are serious about being a force in Scotland and aren't here just to make the numbers and get a cameo in Europe then they should join Hearts and Sevco and push for change. Sevco will do anything to stop Celtic getting the title and we need a vote from one of the Ugles to push through any motion! If four of Scotlands top 5 teams throw some weight behind this we will get league reconstruction on fairer terms for everyone. Or is seeing Hearts in the devison below for 1 season worth more than winning the league?? Time to think bigger hobs! Engage brains and get past the years of pumping you've had, either way theirs more coming your way, may as well take two a year instead of 4! How much points a year do hibs lose to Sevco Celtic and Hearts playing 3 or 4 times a year? What's the closes points tally hibs have ever been to winning the league off the big two? You're backing the wrong horse and cutting off your own nose to spit your face! CHANGE TO WHAT rudix? a 14 TEAM LEAGUE?, I STILL DON'T GET WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE PLAY EACH OTHER TWICE OR 3 TIMES. NOBODY HAS SAID HOW THIS WORKS. 8 TEAMS AT THE TOP AND 6 AT THE BOTTOM, WTF DOES THAT DO? HOW OFTEN DO WE PLAY EACH OTHER AND WHERE? AS FOR HIBS VOTING YES, WELL HOW ELSE IS THE MONEY GOING TO BE RELEASED TO EASE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON SCOTTISH FOOTBALL. LEAGUE POSITIONS HAVE TO BE DETERMINED BEFORE PAYOUT FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER.
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Post by MTS on Apr 11, 2020 14:07:19 GMT
ICT CEO Scott Gardiner saying on the radio he has proof that Dundee voted no yesterday. They are corrupt to the core.
Tweet from Ewan Murray
ICT CEO Scot Gardiner tells BBC Dundee signed “no” voting slip was seen in group chat of Championship clubs at 1624 yesterday. At 1652 Dundee secretary said in same chat: “DFC vote submitted.”
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Post by hfc on Apr 11, 2020 14:07:25 GMT
I can't for the life of me see how ending the league campaign now will help struggling clubs long term. League restructuring is the obvious and logical solution. It can be implemented in a way that can accommodate the conclusion of this seasons fixtures if and when it becomes safe to do so. The only problem with that scenario is too many self interested parties. If the relevant governing bodies were doing their jobs properly, they'd be making decisions to secure the future of the game, not meandering to the whims of certain clubs. THE RELEASING OF PRIZE MONEY IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT SURELY. OF COURSE IT WILL HELP CLUBS.
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Post by MTS on Apr 11, 2020 14:21:05 GMT
Sevco Statement demanding the suspension of Doncaster and the SPFL legal advisor.
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Post by drj1956 on Apr 11, 2020 14:38:18 GMT
Sevco Statement
WE have been presented with evidence via a whistleblower that raises serious concerns surrounding the SPFL’s processes relating to its stewardship of the voting on the resolution presented to member Clubs.
Sevco’ Interim Chairman, Douglas Park, attempted to discuss this evidence with SPFL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, who initially refused to do so. The SPFL followed up that call with an e-mail, which we believe was a thinly disguised attempt to silence legitimate concerns.
Sevco will not be bullied into silence. We believe it is in the interests of all Scottish clubs and supporters that the evidence, which is alarming, be addressed as quickly as possible.
The voting debacle and the evidence we possess raise serious questions concerning the corporate governance of the SPFL.
Mr Park said: “The lack of leadership and responsibility from the SPFL as a members’ organisation has shocked me. If ever there was a time for complete openness and transparency, it is now. Crucial decisions are being made on the issues of promotion and relegation behind closed doors and without proper time for consideration or debate.
“The farcical conduct of this affair seems to me to bring the corporate governance and business operations of the SPFL into sharp focus. It is an example of an undemocratic culture, which has existed within the SPFL for far too long.
“As a member club, we are disturbed by the evidence that has been presented and feel there is no choice but to call for an independent investigation into this entire matter. Each member of the SPFL board has a duty to its members to ensure that such an investigation is instructed without delay.
“All we ask for is equality and respect. In the past few days, we have become alarmed at a seeming lack of even-handedness and fair play from the SPFL. This is surely unacceptable and, if substantiated, must be remedied.
“Other member clubs, who have seen the evidence we hold, share our concerns.
“We call for the suspension of the SPFL’s Chief Executive, Neil Doncaster and its legal adviser, Rod McKenzie while an independent investigation is conducted.”
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